Formation and lineup help needed!!!

mrfizzed · **Formation and lineup help needed!!! -** 06-14-2007, 11:59 AM

I am a high school level coach that has always run a 5-1. i am wondering some things though that i am helping some people can help me out with. Here is my dilemma. i have a good setter that is rather short. i have a girl i would like to play front row for her as a blocker. my setter would then set from the back 3 rotations. my other setter would be someone who i would like to go all the way around and set when she is back row but when she is front row is a much better hitter from the left side. Any suggestions on how i could accomplish this?

BHitterDPasser · 06-14-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mrfizzed

I am a high school level coach that has always run a 5-1. i am wondering some things though that i am helping some people can help me out with. Here is my dilemma. i have a good setter that is rather short. i have a girl i would like to play front row for her as a blocker. my setter would then set from the back 3 rotations. my other setter would be someone who i would like to go all the way around and set when she is back row but when she is front row is a much better hitter from the left side. Any suggestions on how i could accomplish this?

Why not sub out the blocker for the setter when your setter comes around to the front row. If she is a good blocker with ok hands, you could place her in the Opp position to help shut down the opposing teams OH. When she moves to the back row, sub your other setter back in and have her serve and set. If you start running out of substitutions, revert back to a 5-1 where your other setter stays in the game.

The only thing I (in my limited vball knowledge) think is a little odd is that you want your setter to hit from the Left/OH position. Typically I believe the setter would hit from the right side and be back up hands. However, there are a lot of people here who could give better information on this than me.

OmniSpiker · 06-14-2007, 05:07 PM

mrfizzed,

Do you need three blockers? If you're gonna sub out the setter for a blocker and have another setter go all the way around, but still set from back row???
You should just run a 6-2 formation.

BHitterDPasser · 06-14-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OmniSpiker

mrfizzed,

Do you need three blockers? If you're gonna sub out the setter for a blocker and have another setter go all the way around, but still set from back row???
You should just run a 6-2 formation.

I got the impression that he was going to run a 6-2 but instead of using setter A as a hitter/blocker, he wants a way to use his taller/better blocker when the setter A would not be setting (i.e. in the front row) and setter B is in the back row.

tbarbera · 06-15-2007, 04:18 PM

With rally scoring you don't need a tall setter. You only need to be able to side out on the serve. If can do that you don't need a tall setter who can block all the time but you do need a setter with good hands on the court all the time. Also (depending on the league) a short setter in high school girls is not a problem since the middles can probably get out since 4 balls are being set. I think it would be better to have a setter with good hands in the game all the time then have her in for three rotations and then someone with OK hands in for her but who can block... especially since it is is high school girls.

-Tyler

NewEnglandRT · 06-15-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tbarbera

With rally scoring you don't need a tall setter. You only need to be able to side out on the serve. If can do that you don't need a tall setter who can block all the time but you do need a setter with good hands on the court all the time. Also (depending on the league) a short setter in high school girls is not a problem since the middles can probably get out since 4 balls are being set. I think it would be better to have a setter with good hands in the game all the time then have her in for three rotations and then someone with OK hands in for her but who can block... especially since it is is high school girls.

-Tyler

I agree entirely. If you've got a good mobile middle you should be OK in the blocking dept with a good 1 on 1 or a weak double. Good hands are way more important seeing as VB is primarily an offensive game.

BHitterDPasser · 06-17-2007, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NewEnglandRT

I agree entirely. If you've got a good mobile middle you should be OK in the blocking dept with a good 1 on 1 or a weak double. Good hands are way more important seeing as VB is primarily an offensive game.

Indoor volleyball may be an offensive game but doubles is mostly a defensive game.

And if your setter cannot block *at all* wouldn't you look to exploit that as the opposition? Especially if you are putting your backup setter in the Opp spot? That lines up with the OH who is often the strongest hitter.

Another thing that this coach may be looking to do is play more of his players. I am sure there are not just 6 girls on his squad.

settersurf · **help -** 01-17-2008, 12:42 AM

i think you are getting a lot of good advice. I think it is best to go 6-2 and sub ur small setter out for a blocker.

However, when your big hitter\setter is in the front row i would switch her when you are serving. she can block the weekside hitter and then hit outside. out of the six positions possible during the 3 rotations she is in the front row for she will be hitting from the outside position for 4 of them. (twice when it is her spot in the rotation and then twice when u switch her).

Also you would have to assume that your service reception will be better then your defense so ur setter will get better passes from the service reception. she will be able to run a middle or a set play (right cross, would work nicely) much more effectivly. having a good outside is more important when you are getting a bad pass and you need to throw it high and out.

Settersurf

settersurf · **help -** 01-17-2008, 12:46 AM

i set in high school and i played one team that had just your problem. They left the setter in and placed him with a big middle in the front. We made sure i was setting from the back row and then i would set everything behind me to the hitter with no blocker. the middle would come over and try to take it away but hitting a moving blocker is a field day for even an average hitter. and any good hitter knows when you see no blocker its like free beer, ur eyes will light up.

louis09 · 02-20-2008, 05:08 PM

I think your better off running a 5-1 and instead of hiding your setter on the right...put here on the left and make her move to right to set in transition, This way you have your better blockers on there strong side and have your shorter setter on the their weak side. A 6-2 will only work if your setters are good hitters...but in your case she is short so I would go away from that and use the 5-1.